Thanks for this informative essay on a modern constitutional republic with 95% literacy displaced for a sugar and pineapple plantation named Dole that occupied the native food and water shed with disease, vulgar tourists, and now climate disasters.
Who can forget rum, when a drug for depression that becomes the addiction of choice for the West by 1700, sugar, the reason for slavery, results in a mainstay byproduct of refinement which prolongs labor by replacing contaminated water in the fields. Sugar and rum in tandem result in affluenza, where the wealthy die overweight in their fifties of gout and diabetes, and the war economy, of gun boat sloops, to keep the extracted colonial wealth from their pirate cousins.
Didn't know! Very interesting. I even a friend from Hawaii but never told me, maybe because he grew up american. That's how colonialism work for britts and americans, impose their language and style of life
What a great article. Thanks so much. I knew the broad strokes here but many details were new to me, including specifics about the illegality of the occupation. I've been to all 48 of the contiguous states but have felt for awhile that I shouldn't go to Hawai'i. You have underscored why.
I've been to several presentations on Kauai that cover this same question. Bill Fernandez gives an excellent presentation that takes about 90 minutes. Still you've covered some issues he does not.
I found that there is a lot of contention between different Hawaiian groups. I stopped paying attention several years ago though. There's concern over the "blood quanta".
I never understood the department of Hawaiian Homelands or the Office of Hawaiian affairs and why I should have a say in voting for these issues.
Buying real estate was also strange because of the "Homesteads". Realtors would say, "that's a homestead property" as if it would be some kind of problem, but they never explained what it was.
So while I understand the history, I have no idea what the proposed future is suppose to be. On one extreme, all the haoles would have to leave the islands, on the other extreme, nothing will change.
I lived on Oahu in 1975-78. It was wonderful. I wish I still had the townhouse I lived in. We moved to Kauai about 20 years ago. The infestation of tourists is just too much. The islands infrastructure isn't keeping up. I assume the same on the other islands. (But I have to say that KIUC, our power co-op, is incredible.) I have no good ideas about tourists. There are just too many people in the world so the reservation system to hike the North Shore of Kauai is important. We stopped doing that about 10 years ago because "no place to park". Same problem for hiking the Grand Canyon, which I was able to do 3x years ago on the way to Moab to ride the bike trails there. Last time I was there -- same problem that Kauai has. In fact -everywhere- I go (except where I live now), too many tourists. I watched the gravel road from Cancun to Tulum turn into a 4-lane freeway and now nearly every centimeter of beach is "private". We used to snorkel at Poipu, but stopped when we saw the tourists smashing any coral that was trying to grow. They didn't know. Global warming and sea level rise is another challenge to the South Shore.
We marched against the GMO companies on the West Side. I attended a ceremony where the elderly Ms. Robinson turned over some land in Kekaha to a Native Hawaiian group. That was years ago. It seems that nothing came of it.
Native Hawaiians seem to have a good relationship with Native Americans and support one another.
OK, last thing, the Coco Palms fiasco. It was destroyed after Iniki, and maybe a dozen firms have tried to resurrect it. But in the end, it is just some kind of scam that I don't understand.
Oh, one more "last thing", I tried to be a precinct officer for the Democratic Party. We attended 3 state conventions. What a rigged conglomeration of crooks. It took me that long to really understand just how evil the Democratic Party is in Hawaii.
But, that's capitalism for you.
Whatever your goals, you have a long slog ahead of you. I hope you can achieve something you consider to be success, even if it is only a small one.
My anger towards that fucking bully of a country called US with its mostly dumb people who allow their govt to wage mass destruction upon other people's as long as they are 'comfortable' has just magnified a thousand folds after reading this greatly informative article (after Gaza genocide, I never thought my anger will ever be increased, I now know I was wrong)
If there truly is any fucking God at all then the US should be obliterated as soon as possible as they are a cancer and plague to this planet since their very beginning. Bunch of fucking filth with weak people who allow their govt get away with virtually anything
Thanks for reading, and yeah, for years now indigenous hawaiians have been very very clear that as long as this plunder continues people should not vacation to their homeland. I read someone put it as "your picture perfect vacation does not take priority over my health".
Practically the entire landmass of the planet was similarly colonised. Only a small proportion of the island are now native (around 10%), not unlike how the vast majority of UK residents are no longer Picts or native Britons. Calling this an 'occupation' of Hawai'i is about as silly as calling the UK occupied by Saxons.
Unless we are everywhere to be locked in constant warfare in every country we need to draw the line somewhere. With few exceptions that should be wherever the current local population decides it to be. Contrast South Africa circa 1985 (~90% native) and Australia (~3% native) for an example of this.
In short, the article proves too much. There would not be a nation anywhere on Earth not destroyed by its argument. And would the world which emerges from the bloodshed be any better?
They don't call us the great satan for nothing.
Thanks for this informative essay on a modern constitutional republic with 95% literacy displaced for a sugar and pineapple plantation named Dole that occupied the native food and water shed with disease, vulgar tourists, and now climate disasters.
Thank you, and that is a much simpler way to summarize it haha
I've seen those vulgar despot tourist in Grenada island, locals were leaving the beach when the "Rum boat" was coming every week
Who can forget rum, when a drug for depression that becomes the addiction of choice for the West by 1700, sugar, the reason for slavery, results in a mainstay byproduct of refinement which prolongs labor by replacing contaminated water in the fields. Sugar and rum in tandem result in affluenza, where the wealthy die overweight in their fifties of gout and diabetes, and the war economy, of gun boat sloops, to keep the extracted colonial wealth from their pirate cousins.
Didn't know! Very interesting. I even a friend from Hawaii but never told me, maybe because he grew up american. That's how colonialism work for britts and americans, impose their language and style of life
What a great article. Thanks so much. I knew the broad strokes here but many details were new to me, including specifics about the illegality of the occupation. I've been to all 48 of the contiguous states but have felt for awhile that I shouldn't go to Hawai'i. You have underscored why.
I've been to several presentations on Kauai that cover this same question. Bill Fernandez gives an excellent presentation that takes about 90 minutes. Still you've covered some issues he does not.
I found that there is a lot of contention between different Hawaiian groups. I stopped paying attention several years ago though. There's concern over the "blood quanta".
I never understood the department of Hawaiian Homelands or the Office of Hawaiian affairs and why I should have a say in voting for these issues.
Buying real estate was also strange because of the "Homesteads". Realtors would say, "that's a homestead property" as if it would be some kind of problem, but they never explained what it was.
So while I understand the history, I have no idea what the proposed future is suppose to be. On one extreme, all the haoles would have to leave the islands, on the other extreme, nothing will change.
I lived on Oahu in 1975-78. It was wonderful. I wish I still had the townhouse I lived in. We moved to Kauai about 20 years ago. The infestation of tourists is just too much. The islands infrastructure isn't keeping up. I assume the same on the other islands. (But I have to say that KIUC, our power co-op, is incredible.) I have no good ideas about tourists. There are just too many people in the world so the reservation system to hike the North Shore of Kauai is important. We stopped doing that about 10 years ago because "no place to park". Same problem for hiking the Grand Canyon, which I was able to do 3x years ago on the way to Moab to ride the bike trails there. Last time I was there -- same problem that Kauai has. In fact -everywhere- I go (except where I live now), too many tourists. I watched the gravel road from Cancun to Tulum turn into a 4-lane freeway and now nearly every centimeter of beach is "private". We used to snorkel at Poipu, but stopped when we saw the tourists smashing any coral that was trying to grow. They didn't know. Global warming and sea level rise is another challenge to the South Shore.
We marched against the GMO companies on the West Side. I attended a ceremony where the elderly Ms. Robinson turned over some land in Kekaha to a Native Hawaiian group. That was years ago. It seems that nothing came of it.
Native Hawaiians seem to have a good relationship with Native Americans and support one another.
OK, last thing, the Coco Palms fiasco. It was destroyed after Iniki, and maybe a dozen firms have tried to resurrect it. But in the end, it is just some kind of scam that I don't understand.
Oh, one more "last thing", I tried to be a precinct officer for the Democratic Party. We attended 3 state conventions. What a rigged conglomeration of crooks. It took me that long to really understand just how evil the Democratic Party is in Hawaii.
But, that's capitalism for you.
Whatever your goals, you have a long slog ahead of you. I hope you can achieve something you consider to be success, even if it is only a small one.
When i learnt of Hawaii's history years ago, i have never brought Dole pineapple.
My anger towards that fucking bully of a country called US with its mostly dumb people who allow their govt to wage mass destruction upon other people's as long as they are 'comfortable' has just magnified a thousand folds after reading this greatly informative article (after Gaza genocide, I never thought my anger will ever be increased, I now know I was wrong)
If there truly is any fucking God at all then the US should be obliterated as soon as possible as they are a cancer and plague to this planet since their very beginning. Bunch of fucking filth with weak people who allow their govt get away with virtually anything
Thanks for reading, and yeah, for years now indigenous hawaiians have been very very clear that as long as this plunder continues people should not vacation to their homeland. I read someone put it as "your picture perfect vacation does not take priority over my health".
Sadly, the audio was only available for the first segment.
Practically the entire landmass of the planet was similarly colonised. Only a small proportion of the island are now native (around 10%), not unlike how the vast majority of UK residents are no longer Picts or native Britons. Calling this an 'occupation' of Hawai'i is about as silly as calling the UK occupied by Saxons.
Unless we are everywhere to be locked in constant warfare in every country we need to draw the line somewhere. With few exceptions that should be wherever the current local population decides it to be. Contrast South Africa circa 1985 (~90% native) and Australia (~3% native) for an example of this.
In short, the article proves too much. There would not be a nation anywhere on Earth not destroyed by its argument. And would the world which emerges from the bloodshed be any better?